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We’re Under Attack by Cybercriminals

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Rob Ratcliff
Rob Ratcliff  
2/22/2013 9:21:42 AM
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Brilliant! Yes, they've taken them and put them on their own security and fire community...

Welland
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2/22/2013 5:52:31 AM
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They were obviously after our great comments to form some kind of masterclass book! 

Rob Ratcliff
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2/18/2013 5:55:41 AM
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Thanks for that Sarb. I think it's definitely important that we share any learnings we can to help others, and I'd echo your congratulations of the team that first spotted the attack and then 'stopped the bleed' as you put it.

If we ever managed to get to the bottom of who the real target was -- unlikely as burn0050 explained -- I'll be sure to let you know.

sarbsembhi
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2/18/2013 5:11:05 AM
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Responding to attacks
What burn0050 and LawrenceB say is absolutely right, it is not so easily to establish whether the attack was the start of something else, and the DDOS was just a way to divert your resources away from the real attack.

We have seen several security media sites attacked recently, as well as investigative journalist sites like the New York Times and the the Wall Street Journal.

Although who or what the real target is, is difficult to identify quickly, what ever code is left behind (if anyone can find it) is often where the clues are going to be. So even in a DDOS attack it is important to not assume that nothing else took place.

As the phrase goes "Stop the bleeding; then work on lifestyle issues
and fill out the paperwork", as this could and most likely will take a lot of time. Our experience shows that the smarter the attacker, the less code they will be leaving for you to find easily.

Lastly, well done for not only knowing that an attack was taking place and "stoping the bleeding", but also and very importantly sharing what you knew in an open way rather than pretending that nothing happened. This type of attitude of sharing can go a long way in helping others.

Well done Rob and Team.

burn0050
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2/15/2013 11:55:26 AM
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Good questions that I've thought about. We'll never know who was the real target of these attacks. The attack was targeted at an unused IP address in our service provider's block of IP's (so they weren't owned, per se, by us). This was a good target for them, because there weren't any protections on an unused IP, but it was routed to the set of data centers. This was a large sustained attack, with multi gigabyte floods coming from all of the internet pipes (like level3, at&t, etc), so all inroads were used, and there was a lot of bandwidth.

Since this took down 9 data centers, and the one where our servers resided housed many clients, we may have been the victim because we happened to have the first unused IP address they could attack to bring down the whole data center.

The data center doesn't reveal who else is in our particular data center, so unless someone claims responsibility, it will be difficult to discern who the real target was.

I also wonder if this was a trial run, someone testing their muscles for an attack on something bigger, using something that wouldn't get a lot of attention while they test their DDOS attack.

Rob Ratcliff
Rob Ratcliff  
2/15/2013 9:45:45 AM
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Some great additional tips, thank you LawrenceB. In an industry such as security in particular, as you point out, there could be any number of potential 'enemies' responsible for the attack. The bigger the business, the bigger the threat.

LawrenceB
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2/15/2013 9:37:21 AM
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DDOS and DOS attacks
I'd also look at content and recent activity on the site, as a lot of DDOS and DOS attacks are from groups that may have felt criticized or angry about content on your site. While I worked on Flight Global we were targeted by after publishing stories about the Israeli Air Force, which they felt was a punishable action.

Also could the attack have been from a competitor toward your site/service, awareness of this can help prevention strategies and also legal action.

Was the attack, like in this case, to another site on a shared service or to a service provider. Knowledge of where you stand and possible threats around your site is another area I'd take into consideration when looking at security.

 

Rob Ratcliff
Rob Ratcliff  
2/15/2013 9:19:10 AM
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PS. If you're wondering why your profile picture isn't showing, that's connected to the server outage. Apologies again.

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